I can manage the small french drains easily next door, that's not as much of an issue as it is getting my own in. Which may need to be put in sooner rather than later. We have standing water in our heat ducts now, from the storm last night (it had also been moist in there awhile, but worse after last nights rain)....I wish we had a conversations forum here so I could ask more about that (hint hint, someone please email me if they can recommend good HVAC since now I have a large replacement of duct work to do, and SOON!!!!) I didn't know they made grate ends for the end of the pipes! That is good news. I can use that for french drains that do not die into the gutter system. Kathy, do the drain boxes fill up with debris like mulch, or do you put them very close to the say, driveway where it is less likely for debis to get in? I have water that runs from my driveway into that area beside the house nextdoor too, so I could really use a drain box and can tie in that line with the french drain line going the other direction, very easily. Now, my next question would be, what about drain lines that get burried that are run from gutters? I will have some that I want to be placed either under a garden by the deck (which is where the french rains would also eventually go from my house) or come out into a swail around the garden. I'm wondering about gutter debris getting caught into this system. With lots of trees, we can get a lot of debris. Our roof pitch is so steep my hubby and I don't clean the gutters ourselves but have someone do it twice a year. Sometimes I think they could be done 10 times a year, lol! GGG

Actually, it was Menard's, a much smaller hardware chain. There is no Lowe's near here, unfortunately. I used to pass one on my way to school (70 miles away) until I graduated last fall. I would plan an hour before class just to stop there! That's where I got all my Orientals to form the backbone of my lily collection. (And more perennials than I can count) All those turned out to be true, so I was lucky. But the Regals never grew. I'm open to surprises: I've found it often makes gardening more fun. If I feel I have to have something specific (like the Black Beauty I needed last fall), I'll go ahead and order from B&Bs or somewhere. After posting here this morning I google searched these varieties. For two, Monte Negro and Navona I found pictures/listings that matched the pictures on the box;(now lets see if the actual flowers match the names!) For Toronto, the one that is supposed to be salmon with a yellow center, I found listings for a both the yellow as pictured, and a solid pink lily! For Kansas I found nothing at all. That picture is SO pretty I sure hope it will be like that; I'm not a fan of yellow, but this was so delicate and soft. For Bahia Blanca found nothing. Do post that picture of the blue lily! Sounds fascinating.

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