That's what I'm thinking. Worst comes to worst, I'll at least eat/dry them and that's better than a landscaping company ripping them up and tossing em. So far, everyone looks pretty happy. Gave the Chard a deep/big pot; the celery a wide one. The Collards have one my genuinely Huge Pots and so far isn't dying. The kale is kind of unhappy. Gave kale a 'normal' pot as I had run out of bigguns. Ate the Carrots already once research said they weren't so viable. This is kind of an experiment for me, and Maybe my trials of seeing how this goes can help other gardeners in a similar position. I'll keep it updated on my end. Who knows? It's always better to try and be hopeful than to just give up? Any other advice is always most welcome, as well. If anyone else does something similar, I'm soooo very down to hear your ideas. :) Thanks for the feedback as well, Christine!

I got this from Chester and thought it was interesting: And about some carcharodons...notes by Chester Skotak, Costa Rica Neoregelia 'Tiger' was found in Rio de Janeiro state, Estrada Marica, Itaborai on the road to Rio Bonito at the 10 km marker. The true location was first discovered by Rafael Oliveira de Faria and Chester Skotak in 2004. These plants grow on rocks or as epiphytes. When I first saw this plant growing in a very tall tree I remember thanking God that goats cant fly but in the end it didnÂt really matter. That road has now been paved and the forest severely cut, as last I heard. Neoregelia 'Macho' was grown and collected by Luiz (Luis) Correia de Araujo. He had them growing in giant clay pots around the restaurant he owned at the time. Several people brought back pups in the 90s, including me. The plant was found in Vargem Grande, Rio de Janeiro state. Neoregelia 'Silver' was being grown at Pedro NahoumÂs nursery. I spoke with him recently about this Neo and he told me he acquired the plant from Roberto Menescal. It was collected in Vargem Grande also. Neoregelia 'Rainbow' was found near Santa Maria de Madalena around 1995, Rio de Janeiro state. It was growing on rocks at the garbage dump. I was traveling with Rafael Oliveira, Pedro Nahoum, Jorge Gastin and Giorgio Croce. On this same road 2 kilometers further along we found Vriesea croceana, named in honor of Giorgio Croce. These four Neoregelia species (16 plants total) were sent to the U.S.A. by me in the 90s to: Michael Kiehl, Dennis Cathcart, Wally Berg and Harry Luther. They each received four plants, one plant of each new species. Since they were all being called carcharodon at the time, I wanted to distribute these neoregelias in hopes of getting a valid species name on them and also get them into collections. Maybe one day this group will be sorted out. It should also be noted that these species are usually not found in colonies but as individuals or only a few plants and seem to be quite rare where they are found, leaving one to wonder how they even manage to propagate in the wild.

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Gamecock, welcome to the whacky world of Hostaholics. When it comes to differentiating between various cultivars the devil's in the details. You'll see occasional reference to the so-called 10-foot rule. A Hosta is said to be able to pass that rule if you can tell it apart from others at a 10 ft viewing distance and there are plenty of examples of Hosta that cannot pass that rule, like trying to tell the difference between Patriot and Minuteman at that distance. As with anything new, you will have a fairly steep learning curve ahead of you with respect to noticing details. It isn't just the colour or pattern of the leaves, but what do the backs of the leaves look like, are they dull, glossy, whitish or what is the colour of the petiole, what's the thickness of the leaves like. Pay attention to those details and you'll be able to quickly tell the difference between Fortunei Albomarginata and Undulata Albomarginata, but not necessarily at 10 ft.