Focus and Bouquet Parfait are terrific plants with footprints that are wider than tall. Focus has strong myrrh scent with rather formless, smallish blooms in clusters and a nice bushy habit. Focus seems to get a little leaf spot, can't remember if it's anthracnose or blackspot. The foliage is smaller, narrower, the habit more lax. My plant is still less than 4 feet tall, wider than tall, maybe 6 feet wide. Marie Pavie is Focus' pollen parent. Bouquet Parfait has nicer blooms, in my opinion, but no scent whatsoever. The arching canes that stiffer. In my garden, Bouquet Parfait has better foliage, larger, leathery and spotless. I have the two planted in the same bed, so I never notice Bouquet Parfait's lack of scent. Bouquet Parfait, because it's stiffer, is a bit taller, maybe 4.5 feet, with more distinctly arching canes. I'm sure it could be pruned to a compact, denser form, and in fact, it's done that way at the Lens nursery. I'll put more shots up on HelpMeFind. If I were to get only one, I'd get Bouquet Parfait. The clusters are really unique, with lots of substance, a nice combination of blush, cream and a yellow greenish pip in the center. Repeat of both is Hybrid Musk-ish, i.e. fantabulous spring flush, repeat bloom but not like the spring flush. Neither gets as much water as they'd like in the summer. Better irrigation might produce better repeat.

Eastern no-spray gardeners ought to consider 'Belinda' and 'Mozart,' which thrive with essentially no care in our difficult climate. (I don't grow them but I've observed them for years.) 'Belinda' is really vigorous but can be pruned to stand up. 'Mozart' makes a fairly large, very dense fountainy mound. They aren't fragrant but make a terrific show. I like 'Kathleen' for the wafting fragrance, oversize foliage, and massive first flush with decent repeat. Mine was disease free for ten years but then became moderately susceptible to a new strain of blackspot. It makes stiffish 7-foot shoots that often come out at a low angle--wants to be a wide, low-arching shrub but can climb. Mine, grafted and virused, declined after twenty years and croaked. 'Penelope' bears beautiful clusters with a strong, sweet fragrance. It is susceptible to mildew but can be no-spray in the East as it tolerates blackspot. Habit is vigorous and naturally arching. Jon showed one that had been pruned up into a wide, rather flat-topped shape, very attractive. I have Lav. Lassie but don't care much for it. First flush is beautiful but it doesn't repeat under its laissez-faire regime and shady location. Growth habit without support is disorderly. Susceptible to blackspot.

Hi riku, I bought this rose from Hortico, they don't sell Danae and after looking at Mozart and Escapade, neither of them look like my rose to me. The plant is very vigorous and healthy, the flowers have a wonderful fragrance. The flowers seem to change colour with the temperature, they go from pinks/peaches and creams to almost white when aged. It really is very beautiful. The new growth is a reddish colour and it throws up canes 5-6 feet tall which arch. Hortico states that QotM is hardy to zone6, this rose has come through 2 winters for me in zone4b. It does get a lot of dead wood but doesn't take long to send out lots of new growth and I didn't give it any protection last year for winter. Here's a couple more pics showing the leaves and buds.

Thanks, everyone! I ordered from ARE last week: Cornelia, Madame Berkeley, Mutabilis, Sally Holmes, and Marie Van Houtte. These last three didn't come up on this thread, so hope I chose well. Mutabilis and Sally were on my want list, but I had forgotten about them. I've seen both around here looking really stunning. Marie Van Houtte was more of an impulse buy. I wanted Mrs Dudley Cross, but read MVH is less prone to mildew. Rosette Delizy was also a contender, but her color not as good with my existing plants. I really wanted to order the Cochets, but restrained myself due to the balling. Sigh... Marie VH and Mme Berkeley will have lots of sun; Mutabilis, mostly sun; Sally H will have morning sun. Not sure yet about where to plant Cornelia. I've read conflicting reports about how much sun she likes. I'll probably get one more shade tolerant rose- maybe Pax, Buff Beauty, or Reve D'or. My clay soil is waterlogged, so I'll probably need to wait awhile to plant. No complaints about the rain, though!